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Transmission Measurement Round Table

 

Part of the SGA Operating Conference 2008

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  • July 22-24, 2008
  • Hyatt Regency Downtown - Atlanta, GA

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Handouts

Industry Standards

Coriolis Meters

Turbine Meters

 

How to Register for this Meeting

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Schedule

This round table is scheduled 8 to 4:30 on Wednesday, July 21, and 8 to 11:30 on Thursday. For the full Conference schedule please visit the Conference web page.

Handouts

Agenda

Roster

 

Discussion Outline

 

Wednesday June 23, 2008

Full breakfast with Exhibitors (7:00 to 8:00)

Gas company participation only (8:00 to 10:15)

Ultrasonic (8:00 to 9:00)

Moderator: Steve MacDowell, Boardwalk Pipeline

  • Technology (clamp on – path design)
  • Diagnostics
    • What do you do with / about information technology?
    • Other meter technologies
    • Who looks at them?
  • How are you doing volume corrections?
    • At what percent do you correct?
    • Contract issues
  • Limits / ranges
  • Upgrades
    • Frequency
    • Process
  • Sizing
  • How do we make corrections?
  • How do we know when that meter is wrong?
  • Automation
  • Volume correction
    • % threshold
  • Low flow measurement meter diagnostics calibration frequency

Orifice Meters (9:00 to 9:45)

Moderator: John Hand, Spectra Energy

  • Smart diagnostics
  • Business case for replacing with Ultra Sonic?
  • Diagnostics
  • Where do you use them?
  • Are you replacing them?
    • Why
    • How
  • Build up
  • Seal ring leak
  • Leading edge sharpness
  • Monitoring for efficiency
  • Submitted on the survey: Remanufactured Hardware; what information is required? Low DP measurement Transmitter Accuracy

Rotary Meters (9:45 to 10:00)

Moderator: Steve MacDowell, Boardwalk Pipeline

  • Design criteria
  • Internal by-pass value
  • Testing procedures

Coriolis - Other Meters (10:00 to 10:15)

Moderator: Ed Bowles, SWRI

 

Standards Update

Presenter: Ed Bowles, Southwest Research Institute (this presentation will be given during each meter type above)

  • Standards
  • Tariffs
    • Gas Quality related
    • Need consistency
    • AGA doing work in this area
  • Gas tariff issues
    • AGA 4A
  • Presenter: Ed Bowles

Break (10:15 to 10:30)

Vendor Presentations (10:30 to 11:30)

Note: This session will begin approximately 10:30. Vendors are by invitation only. The morning session prior to this session is open to gas company participation only.

  • What’s new?
  • New technology
  • Brief (5 minute) presentations

Lunch with Vendors in the Exhibit Hall (11:30 to 1:30)

Transducers (1:30 to 1:50)

Moderator: Thomas Marek, Williams

  • Uncertainty criteria / limit
  • Smart balancing
  • Multi variance

Calibrations (1:50 to 2:15)

Moderator: Thomas Marek, Williams

  • Secondary instruments
  • Traceability
  • QA programs

Break (2:15 to 2:30)

System Segmentation (2:30 to 2:45)

Moderator: Steve MacDowell, Boardwalk Pipeline

  • Lost and unaccounted for
  • Accuracy / uncertainty

Workforce Development (2:45 to 3:30)

Moderator: Thomas Marek, Williams

  • What are the skill sets new employees will  need?
  • How does the meter station need to change to better match the skills sets of new hires. These guys probably didn’t work in a shop before coming to work; they’re more technical oriented. 
  • What are companies doing to address these issues?
  • Tech skill sets
    • Station design
      • Outsourcing
    • Technology
    • Capabilities
    • How is your company addressing the issue
    • Training
    • Certification
    • Transmission Measurement Tech – JIP project
    • Hiring criteria
    • Multi disciplines?
    • Work load

LNG / Gas Quality (3:30 to 4:00)

Moderator: John Hand, Spectra Energy

  • Variability affect
  • Sampling design (ie. unobstructed pipe length)
    • Heat trace
    • Chromatograph vs. composite vs. spot
    • Heating comp sample system
  • Design criteria (ie. volume; quality; etc.)
  • Dew Point Control

    • Monitoring Contaminants
  • Submitted on the survey: How would you control dew point at a receipt other than shutting in the point?

Check Measurement (4:00 to 4:30)

Moderator: Steve MacDowell, Boardwalk Pipeline

  • Primary devices
  • Design criteria
  • Secondary devices
  • Redundancy

Business Mixer @ Georgia Aquarium (see Conference Main Page for details)

 

Thursday June 24, 2008

Continental Breakfast (7:00 to 8:00)

Inspection / Test Intervals (8:00 to 8:45)

Moderator: Steve MacDowell, Boardwalk Pipeline

  • Statistical process control
  • What are others doing?
  • Volume
  • Diagnostics
  • Performance driven
  • Redundancy
  •  

Testing / Witnessing (9:15 to 8:45)

Moderator: Steve MacDowell, Boardwalk Pipeline

    • Tech workforce limits
    • Tech training
    • In-house vs. contract

Information Availability (9:15 to 10:00)

Moderator: Thomas Marek, Williams

  • What are we doing with the information
  • Real time
  • Tracking and recording
  • Access
  • Automation – how to become more efficient. What are we lacking in the infrastructure so that people can look @ data instead of windshields.
  • Back to the future
  • Security of data

Break (10:00 to 10:15)

Design and Economic Evaluations (10:15 to 11:00)

Moderator: John Hand, Spectra Energy

  • Utilization of skid packages
    • Benefits and challenges
    • Part or partial design
  • Inspection (fabrication, calibration, etc.)
  • Economic decisions - making decisions based on first cost vs. full life cost

Control Valves (11:00 to 11:15)

Moderator: Steve MacDowell, Boardwalk Pipeline

  • Worker / monitor
  • Flow / Pressure / Overpressure Protection

Turbine (11:15 to 11:30)

Moderator: Guest

  • AGA 7 update
  • New design
  • Submitted on the survey: Single Rotor vs Dual Rotor; what are the advantages and disadvantages (must be neutral)

 

Conference Adjourns (11:30)

 

 

 

Links to Additional Information

Transmission Measurement Interest Group

 

Questions?

Mike Grubb

Southern Gas Association

mgrubb@southerngas.org

972-620-4022

 

This page updated: July 16, 2008